Sharks under investigation for salary cap breaches

john1420

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Oversights would be when players perform well, get performance and/or rep bonuses, which push them over the cap.

Grey areas would be external third-party payments that were declared as such, but the NRL deem them to have been conditional to the player playing for X club, therefore it should be counted on the cap.

Inflating another staff member's wage, and having that person on-pay a player the extra amount, can not be anything other than intentional.
So unambiguously obvious I can't believe it needs to be said - but seemingly it does
 

LittleDavey83

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I'm waiting for the name to drop.....apparently a member of the 2016 grand final side who has since left the bluc....Bird/Barba, who wants odds?
 

LittleDavey83

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Morks - from https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-premiership/teams/sharks/cronulla-sharks-face-repercussions-over-alleged-salary-cap-rort-with-question-marks-raised-over-their-2016-premiership/news-story/6826d6ee33b2a00ba24dbde0984d6d58 - Hooper reckons “The player that they initially reported the irregularity about is no longer at the club. I can tell you, the player they identified the irregularity around was part of the 2016 premiership winning team, he did the lap of honour with the Sharks after they won the competition."

All still speculation at this point, but I suspect where there's smoke, there's fire........
 

Morkel

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Morks - from https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-premiership/teams/sharks/cronulla-sharks-face-repercussions-over-alleged-salary-cap-rort-with-question-marks-raised-over-their-2016-premiership/news-story/6826d6ee33b2a00ba24dbde0984d6d58 - Hooper reckons “The player that they initially reported the irregularity about is no longer at the club. I can tell you, the player they identified the irregularity around was part of the 2016 premiership winning team, he did the lap of honour with the Sharks after they won the competition."

All still speculation at this point, but I suspect where there's smoke, there's fire........
Interesting. Though there is supposedly two payments in question, one in 2015, another in 2017.

On my phone now, but article quoted in 3rd post of this thread includes:

“The original tip-off may have involved an undisclosed third party payment to a player as far back as 2015. That player is still at the club.”
 

Huge

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I know, but I have so many mates I would need to inform if they did!
Yes, they're not popular around here and quite a few just can't forgive me for liking them before the Broncos were born. Nobody was really concerned about them before they became a force in recent years and old beliefs persisted (we'll smash the sharks, they're easybeats) for a long time. Still, **** em, they've got all the sympathy they're getting from me since they won a gf.
 

Jedhead

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Yes, they're not popular around here and quite a few just can't forgive me for liking them before the Broncos were born. Nobody was really concerned about them before they became a force in recent years and old beliefs persisted (we'll smash the sharks, they're easybeats) for a long time. Still, **** em, they've got all the sympathy they're getting from me since they won a gf.
But the question must remain forever now - did they win it fair and square?
 

Huge

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But the question must remain forever now - did they win it fair and square?
The answer to that will be decided by the NRL. If they rule it's legit then that's it. Doesn't matter about speculation because it's like a forward pass, once ruled on it doesn't matter what we think. It's done. I know I don't care due to only caring about the ones the Broncos win.
 

GCBRONCO

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Yes, they're not popular around here and quite a few just can't forgive me for liking them before the Broncos were born. Nobody was really concerned about them before they became a force in recent years and old beliefs persisted (we'll smash the sharks, they're easybeats) for a long time. Still, **** em, they've got all the sympathy they're getting from me since they won a gf.
I don't buy into that, I had a lot of respect for the Sharks during the mid to late 90's, they were a real force even if they didn't win a premiership(weren't far off really), played quality football and players you could like. I don't dislike the Sharks today because they won a premiership, I dislike the use of peptides and the attitude surrounding it by the club and players, I even think that is far worse then the salary cap drama atm which is more an example that the salary cap is a flawed model that doesn't work.
 
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Wolfie

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I don't buy into that, I had a lot of respect for the Sharks during the mid to late 90's, they were a real force even if they didn't win a premiership(weren't far off really), played quality football and players you could like. I don't dislike the Sharks today because they won a premiership, I dislike the use of peptides and the attitude surrounding it by the club and players, I even think that is far worse then the salary cap drama atm which is more an example that the salary cap is a flawed model that doesn't work.
They are cheats and they admitted cheating. Surely if they had key players being paid over the cap in that side that won the premiership they have to be stripped
 

Nashy

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Yes, they're not popular around here and quite a few just can't forgive me for liking them before the Broncos were born. Nobody was really concerned about them before they became a force in recent years and old beliefs persisted (we'll smash the sharks, they're easybeats) for a long time. Still, **** em, they've got all the sympathy they're getting from me since they won a gf.
I just want to give shit to my mates who have supported them all those years for a single lift of the trophy. The pain of losing it, oh, thinking about their faces. So great.
 

1910

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Sure. We have enough to lose. If you knew me you’d know I’d support zero tolerance. Any player, manager, and club signatories caught need to be rubbed out for the duration of the player’s contract. And relevant seasons declared invalid. Should clean it up. Would have set a precedence in 2010 if the NRL weren’t gutless.
I wanted to find out how many clubs you'd be stripping. Seven premiers from 2000-2010.

All these premiers/Grand finals were over the cap it's a pretty sad indication of the use of the cap.

Roosters in 2002
Panthers in 2003
Bulldogs and Roosters 2004 from the Grand Final
Broncos and Storm 2006 from the Grand Final
Storm 2007
Storm 2008
Storm 2009
Dragons 2010
Manly 2013
 

Nashy

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Don't forget the 2015 Cowboys. Their dodgy chairman also being a property developer and giving 10+ players free houses. This is why I despise that club. Unlike Melbourne it got swept under the carpet.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-07-28/cowboys-chairman-says-players-property-deals-above-board/6654168
I don't think there is any issue there. It would have taken them all of 3 minutes to use RP Data to find the value in the area. Given journos all have access to that, it would have been found out if it were dodgy.
 

Morkel

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I don't think there is any issue there. It would have taken them all of 3 minutes to use RP Data to find the value in the area. Given journos all have access to that, it would have been found out if it were dodgy.
There has been heaps of shit that has happened in Townsville that never made it to the papers, more specifically, never been reported by the journos. The game means too much to them up there. Not "allegations" either, this is the word face-to-face with the late Graham Murray.

The NRL just don't want to know about anything wrong with premiership teams. The Storm fucked the history books enough and the NRL don't want it to happen any further. If there's a way to pretend it didn't happen, they'll make sure it didn't happen.
 

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