Josh Hoffman

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not just barba but vidot looks bulked up too. didn't he used to be a bit of an aerial specialist? now he runs like a prop
 
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vidot was told to trim down and has down a little, but hasnt reached his target i dont believe.
 
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not just barba but vidot looks bulked up too. didn't he used to be a bit of an aerial specialist? now he runs like a prop

Vidot was 108kg in the pre-season media guide for the Dragons last year. He'd been pre-Griffined already.
 
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JOSH Hoffman may not be playing a traditional five-eighth’s role by design, but he is certainly one of the most effective running halves in the NRL competition.

Hoffman’s switch to the number six this year has been queried by some, but no-one can question statistics that show he is still the dangerous runner he always was, and the improvement in his general game.


With Ben Hunt steering the ship at halfback, Hoffman is the most damaging running five-eighth in the NRL, as Fox Sports stats have revealed.


At the halfway mark of the competition, Hoffman is the only pivot in the game that has made over 1,000 metres with the ball in hand - even surpassing lock/five-eighth and Rabbitoh John Sutton’s 974 metres.


To provide a marker for his 1,025 metres, note that Origin-experienced trio Johnathan Thurston (612 metres), Josh Reynolds (694 metres) and James Maloney (581 metres) are well behind him.


Of course this has much to do with the style Hoffman is playing, as more of a runner than a passer, and a strong defensive half - with Ben Barba chiming in from fullback with some ball-playing skill.


“There is still a lot for myself to improve on,” Hoffman told Big League magazine.


“My natural game is to run the ball, and if the opportunity presents itself, to just play what is in front of me.


“At the moment Ben Hunt is doing a great job taking the boys up on his shoulders and getting the boys through.


“The move to five-eighth allows me to get more involved and to get my hands on the ball a bit more.


“When I see a bit of a hole in the line I can take them on.


“I guess that is what the coach allowed me to do – to have a bit of freedom in the middle and run the ball around, so I’m really trying to take that chance with two hands.”


But that doesn’t mean Hoffman is leaving finesse out of his game.


To go with his 26 tackle busts, he has produced four line break assists and four try assists, including a lovely grubber for Jack Reed to score against the Sea Eagles on Sunday.


But Hoffman is taking nothing for granted.


“You can’t get too comfortable in the game of rugby league,” he said.


“At this stage I am enjoying my team and making the most of number six.


“Every game is a challenge, every game is a battle, and you’re fighting to keep that position.”


Hoffman will train with the Broncos this afternoon as they prepare for Monday night’s important match with the Raiders in Canberra.

From the Broncos site.
 
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Whilst 4 line-break assists and 4 try assists are nice.. I can't recall Hoffman ever actually piercing the line this year, has he made any line-breaks? I'd be perfectly fine with the Hoggman experiment if he was actually just tearing teams up down the left hand side and making multiple breaks a game, but he just seems to make 6-7 metres then get smashed.
 
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He has heaps of running metres because that's all he actually does.
 
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Hunt is more effective at running the ball because the defence can't just have 3-4 players commit to stopping him because he actually does pass the ball.

Yeah, pretty much. Hoffman's running game is pretty useless.
 
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He has heaps of running metres because that's all he actually does.

Imagine how many metres Vidot would make at 6?!

Speaking of which, on the weekend Vidot received the ball from Hunt after a scrum and Wally said it's not often that Vidot would catch the ball at five-eight. But he does almost every time after the scrum. Lewis was a great player but he's been shocking lately on commentary.
 
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Homer Simpson: Aw, people can come up with statistics to prove anything, Kent. Forfty percent of all people know that.
 
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“My natural game is to run the ball, and if the opportunity presents itself, to just play what is in front of me."

We noticed...

That would be okay if he actually DID play what was in front of him and not **** it up like a tool.
 
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Hunt is more effective at running the ball because the defence can't just have 3-4 players commit to stopping him because he actually does pass the ball.

Exactly, he asks questions of the opposition defence, you don't know if his going to run it, pass it, put in a grubber, chip kick etc which makes it very hard for the opposition to simply commit all their players to him because it can be at their own peril. Hoffman is too easy to read, he might put in the odd grubber but 99 percent of the time he will run it and that just makes him a liability with the ball in his hands in attack, he might make some good metres but overall the opposition defense isn't concerned about commiting too many players to tackling him cause they know in the end his going to be tackled.
 
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