[Official] - Milford signs with Broncos

[Mr Fourex]

Parker's offloads are basically used as an extra hit up.

QLD used them a lot more effectively in game 3.

Yes...exactly. Parker's offloads actually got the rewards they deserve in game 3.

 

[Mr Fourex]

Hoffman is only ever good for running so if there's one thing he can do well from the #6 it's support like a #1. But nope, he ***** that up too.

He's always been shit at it. It's one reason why fullback is not his go.

 

[austin71]

Thought this was the Milford thread?

 

[CaptainHook]

Seriously?

Could it be because we have a group of quality second rowers, but are a bit lacking in the prop department? I'm just throwing an idea out there... :noidea:

You're right. Let's shift our best one.

 

[Porthoz]

 

[Alec]

It's ironic because people were complaining Thaiday is not a prop last year...and he's been playing lock this year.

 

[Foordy]

It's ironic because people were complaining Thaiday is not a prop last year...and he's been playing lock this year.

The difference being Thaiday had to change the way he played, by playing in the middle third instead of the edges.

Parker was a middle third player and hasn't had to change anything about the way he plays.

 

[Mr Fourex]

I'm going to try and tip toe around the minefield that characterizes the nuances of correctly naming a forwards position in today's Rugby league's arm chair graduate's world.

I think Thaiday plays best when he is running wide. Therefore I believe he is a back rower or at least one that is a wide runner.

Parker can play well in the middle.....to me he has always played like a prop. That said I have seen him play wide of the ruck equally as well.

So is it more correct 'these days" to define forwards as middle players and edge players, as opposed to front row, 2nd row and lock?

 

[Mister Wright]

I'm going to try and tip toe around the minefield that characterizes the nuances of correctly naming a forwards position in today's Rugby league's arm chair graduate's world.

I think Thaiday plays best when he is running wide. Therefore I believe he is a back rower or at least one that is a wide runner.

Parker can play well in the middle.....to me he has always played like a prop. That said I have seen him play wide of the ruck equally as well.

So is it more correct 'these days" to define forwards as middle players and edge players, as opposed to front row, 2nd row and lock?

Totally agree. Unless the scrum returns to significance those names are redundant. There's really no such thing as front rowers, second rowers and locks anymore. They are middle runners and edge runners.

 

[Morkel]

Let's just be clear. Parker is an absolute champion.

His offloads are very useful, however we fail to use his abilities properly. I am sure 90% of his offloads are received by guys in stationary positions. It's good for an extra 5-10m which is great but we never seem to support him with runners.

This is one area where the Warriors do it so much better. A flying SJ or Tomkins to offload to instead of a stationary Macca.

Really dont understand why either. We have Barba FFS

Yeah this. [MENTION=2221]Porthoz[/MENTION], the difference between a Parker & Kasiano offload is that Parker's pop out unannounced, great for stumping the defenders but bad for timing for a "flying player". Kasiano uses his height, gets above the defenders and gives the support runner a slight telegraphing of where it's to go. The latter is better for someone to grab it while already at speed.

 

[theshed]

Yeah this. [MENTION=2221]Porthoz[/MENTION], the difference between a Parker & Kasiano offload is that Parker's pop out unannounced, great for stumping the defenders but bad for timing for a "flying player". Kasiano uses his height, gets above the defenders and gives the support runner a slight telegraphing of where it's to go. The latter is better for someone to grab it while already at speed.

The bigger difference is that at the bulldogs Barba ran next to kas everytime. If he is even anywhere near Parker he is meandering in the background.
Watch Slater, Mini, or Stuart, they will run past the tackle at fall speed almost every time then have to jog back to get onside. If an offload is made they are there to receive it at full speed.

Barba did this at the dogs. Now he is more like club level Hayne. Too busy getting ready for the next play to waste time speculatively running for offloads. The difference is, he has nothing on Haynes strong running or ball skills.

Hook is obviously to blame for this by playing Hoffman at 5/8 but it's become poor bhq etiquette to mention this outside the sack griffin thread despite it being very relevant.

 

[Mister Wright]

Barba is also playing a 5/8 role in attack so he has to be in position for "set" plays. He just can't pop up wherever he wants like a traditional fullback.

 

[Alec]

The whole current structure is just tits on a bull.

 

[broncsgoat]

Just watche the highlights of the storm game and milfords goal line defence looked horrendous

 

[CaptainHook]

Just watche the highlights of the storm game and milfords goal line defence looked horrendous

His defense in general needs a lot of work - not a very popular opinion on these boards but it's a real concern if he intends to go into the halves next year.

 

[theshed]

Don't worry, guys. Steve Kearny is our defensive coach.

 

[Waynesaurus]

He is only a young fella, he will improve and get bigger, Locky wasn't exactly perfect in defence either.

 

[Anonymous person]

Yep, lockyer was pretty terrible at defending for the first few years, and he turned into one of the best. Milford will improve too.