PLAYER Payne Haas

[Morkel]

It all seems to me like he'll stay, but his manager wants so squeeze every last drop of cash out of us. Union etc is just a ruse to up the $$. Of course we all know that the more we pay him, the less quality around him, so it compromises his chances of winning a premiership. But his manager doesn't care and those 4WD Mercs aren't cheap to replace when illegal driving voids the insurance...

 

[Morkel]

Which just made me think, the family don't like to take responsibility for their own actions, and we know they will fight tooth and nail in court over Mum's actions. I hadn't even thought of the legal fees that some firm will delight in liberating from him. We'd have to be talking hundreds of thousands for sure.

 

[Johnny92]

Which just made me think, the family don't like to take responsibility for their own actions, and we know they will fight tooth and nail in court over Mum's actions. I hadn't even thought of the legal fees that some firm will delight in liberating from him. We'd have to be talking hundreds of thousands for sure.

How long the court process drags on for may also be a factor, A couple who were killed Australia day 2021 by a stolen car the driver didn't get sentenced til June 2022.
Payne may want to be in Brisbane when it's all happening, supporting his family not seeing the world in rugby.
He can't go til 2025 but the case could drag on that long until sentencing.

 

[Mustafur]

If Payne Resigned with us I would Cum.

 

[BroncosFever]

If Payne Resigned with us I would Cum.

You want him out that bad?

 

[Mustafur]

You want him out that bad?

ReSigned.

 

[BooKhaki]

There was none of this with the likes of Patty.

Yeah Patty didn't have his manager come out and say he was underpaid while he was away at the World Cup. Patty is perfect.

 

[theshed]

Been watching a lot of Shaq footage lately. Haas reminds me so much of Shaq. Gigantic dude who has skills and abilities that aren’t fair in a man his size.

 

[Kimlo]

JFH who is the top paid prop in game is reportedly on 875-950k depending on source but let's say 875k, which is 1.1m under the increased cap.

Haas is IMO easily better and I'd happily give him 950k under the old cap which is 1.19m or round it to 1.2m.

I think the club will offer him something like 1150+ he will have some 3rd party deals for sure and could probably make 1.3m a year comfortably. Add on 100k in origin and rep payments, his overall earning potential is around 1.4 maybe higher depending on 3rd party sponsorships, if he keeps clean off the field he has Superstar potential there.

So even if France are offering 1.8m that's not a huge difference given he has no profile there and would likely make close to 0 in outside endorsements, not to mention living in France away from family and comfort zone. France's top tax rate is about 3% higher too, so that 1.8m becomes 1.75m.

If we're then talking about after tax net income, the difference is at most 200k a year. It's a bit but hardly worth changing country for, and that's before we discuss potential future earning potential he'd lose by going to an obscure league.


I think with the increase in the cap, outside leagues would have to be offering top players 2m and over to be seriously tempting.

 

[Broncapz]

away from family

That's goes in the Pros column for Haas.

 

[Kimlo]

That's goes in the Pros column for Haas.

Partner has a family, can't imagine she's keen to leave her family.

I know I wouldn't change countries for an extra 15% net salary, that's for sure.

 

[Midean]

JFH who is the top paid prop in game is reportedly on 875-950k depending on source but let's say 875k, which is 1.1m under the increased cap.

Haas is IMO easily better and I'd happily give him 950k under the old cap which is 1.19m or round it to 1.2m.

I think the club will offer him something like 1150+ he will have some 3rd party deals for sure and could probably make 1.3m a year comfortably. Add on 100k in origin and rep payments, his overall earning potential is around 1.4 maybe higher depending on 3rd party sponsorships, if he keeps clean off the field he has Superstar potential there.

So even if France are offering 1.8m that's not a huge difference given he has no profile there and would likely make close to 0 in outside endorsements, not to mention living in France away from family and comfort zone. France's top tax rate is about 3% higher too, so that 1.8m becomes 1.75m.

If we're then talking about after tax net income, the difference is at most 200k a year. It's a bit but hardly worth changing country for, and that's before we discuss potential future earning potential he'd lose by going to an obscure league.


I think with the increase in the cap, outside leagues would have to be offering top players 2m and over to be seriously tempting.

I see what you are saying, but if Sua' ali'i is good to take it, i see no reason Haas wouldn't either, there is incentive to play in the world cup as well, and endorsements will come regardless of the code as a professional athlete (and probably richer endorsements overseas).
His misses would be fine with it i reckon, ive yet to meet a woman that doesn't want to go to France/Paris.

The money difference may also come into play in regards to something someone else pointed out in that his mother is probably racking up hefty lawyer fee's and we all know who is paying for it.
So every dollar will count when its leaking from your account like a sieve.

I am trying to stay positive in regards to Haas, but i dread opening this forum every morning as i half expect to see a dirty big headline of "HAAS SIGNS WITH FRENCH RUGBY" or something to that affect.

 

[something]

My gut says Payne stays, but my gut also said we put 50 on the raiders

 

[Xzei]

all these gut feelings might just need a shit lol

 

[Kimlo]

I see what you are saying, but if Sua' ali'i is good to take it, i see no reason Haas wouldn't either, there is incentive to play in the world cup as well, and endorsements will come regardless of the code as a professional athlete (and probably richer endorsements overseas).
His misses would be fine with it i reckon, ive yet to meet a woman that doesn't want to go to France/Paris.

The money difference may also come into play in regards to something someone else pointed out in that his mother is probably racking up hefty lawyer fee's and we all know who is paying for it.
So every dollar will count when its leaking from your account like a sieve.

I am trying to stay positive in regards to Haas, but i dread opening this forum every morning as i half expect to see a dirty big headline of "HAAS SIGNS WITH FRENCH RUGBY" or something to that affect.

Suaalii would have struggled to field a million dollar offer though IMO. He's probably on 800k at the Roosters and for the forseeable future, I dont' see his market value climbing much higher. Nothing I've seen from him tells me he's anything other than a solid centre so his earning potential is capped.

Could be wrong though and maybe a desperate club like the Tigers offered him 1M but I don't think so.

 

[Midean]

Suaalii would have struggled to field a million dollar offer though IMO. He's probably on 800k at the Roosters and for the forseeable future, I dont' see his market value climbing much higher. Nothing I've seen from him tells me he's anything other than a solid centre so his earning potential is capped.

Could be wrong though and maybe a desperate club like the Tigers offered him 1M but I don't think so.

My hopes are pinned on you being right mate.

 

[Midean]

Yeah Patty didn't have his manager come out and say he was underpaid while he was away at the World Cup. Patty is perfect.

Yea cause that's totally the same as asking for a release, back on ignore you go clown.

 

[BooKhaki]

Yea cause that's totally the same as asking for a release, back on ignore you go clown.

Oh no please don't ignore me for naming a fact you don't like.