PLAYER Payne Haas

[1910]

Sooooo are the NRL gonna step in and tell him that that's actually not allowed under the salary cap???

Bloke might be the dumbest **** in the game... and that is a low fucking bar to be beating

It is allowed but it has to be real skills for real pay and declared. You can't get a million dollars for pumping up footballs.

If he wants it written into his contract. It will be on the cap.

Payne in one way is trying to be smart but in another way he isn't. He's trying to secure his future because he has no skills outside of what he currently does.

Problem is he is 23 and could play for another 12 years. What's Brisbane supposed to do offer him in a job in 13 years' time?

This is normally a conversation you have with a Reynolds not a 23-year-old.

No matter what he does the job isn't going to go anywhere near his football earnings.

Hanock, Hodges, Boyd, Reed, Ali, Gillett, Prince, De Vere, Burns, McGuire, they all work there. But they don't make millions Payne and they work.

 

[theshed]

Cost of living won't matter when he's given an apartment in Bondi, a nice new car and a nice pear of white shoes to wear to the pub he definitely doesn't drink at.

All jokes aside, that’s exactly what I’m thinking. He doesn’t need to buy in Sydney and he isn’t copping $200k in tolls per year

 

[Waynesaurus]

If he plays for another 10 years and is smart with his money he will never have to work again or at least money will not be an issue he has to worry about in his life.

 

[Kimlo]

It is allowed but it has to be real skills for real pay and declared. You can't get a million dollars for pumping up footballs.

If he wants it written into his contract. It will be on the cap.

Payne in one way is trying to be smart but in another way he isn't. He's trying to secure his future because he has no skills outside of what he currently does.

Problem is he is 23 and could play for another 12 years. What's Brisbane supposed to do offer him in a job in 13 years' time?

This is normally a conversation you have with a Reynolds not a 23-year-old.

No matter what he does the job isn't going to go anywhere near his football earnings.

Hanock, Hodges, Boyd, Reed, Ali, Gillett, Prince, De Vere, Burns, McGuire, they all work there. But they don't make millions Payne and they work.

How does it go into the cap if it's a job for post-career.

IF it's a 200k p/a job post retirement, do they add 200k per year into the salary cap? Do the NRL ever investigate players going straight from retirement into club roles, because it's basically a known rort to give players a reduced retirement deal with the lure of post playing jobs. The Tigers did what every other club did but were stupid enough to put it in writing.

 

[theshed]

How much can a Q Cup player be paid? Cant the give him a 60 year deal with the Magpies or something?

Haas also has like 8 siblings. Just give each of the 80k a year jobs in something fluffy like community outreach

 

[1910]

How does it go into the cap if it's a job for post-career.

IF it's a 200k p/a job post retirement, do they add 200k per year into the salary cap? Do the NRL ever investigate players going straight from retirement into club roles, because it's basically a known rort to give players a reduced retirement deal with the lure of post playing jobs. The Tigers did what every other club did but were stupid enough to put it in writing.

If you make it part of his deal it does, Inglis' off field work for Souths was included in the cap when he retired. NRL valued his pathways work and coaching at 100k a year.

 

[Mustafur]

How much can a Q Cup player be paid? Cant the give him a 60 year deal with the Magpies or something?

Haas also has like 8 siblings. Just give each of the 80k a year jobs in something fluffy like community outreach

Qcup is all part time, I don't know how much the coaches are on but players not on a deal with an NRL club are on 40k max a season.

I think outside having him be our future Blue Shirt Trainer(tactical) which is what Alfie is doing it would be hard to promise him anything more at this early stage of his career.

Say he retires in 10 years by then Alfie will be 67, even though he is energiser bunny for his age I could see him possibly retiring that role by then.

 

[McHunt]

Joel Gould (AAP):

The manager of prop Payne Haas says the Brisbane star could re-sign with the club before November 1 if a package that includes a palatable "life after football" component is tabled. The 23-year-old Haas is off-contract at the end of 2024. His manager Ahmad Merhi previously suggested Haas would test the market on November 1.​

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When asked directly on Tuesday night whether Haas could re-sign with the Broncos before that, Merhi replied:​

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"One hundred per cent. The whole situation with Payne is about life after footy," Merhi told AAP. "It has got nothing to do with payments. It is all about getting him an education and a job in his life after footy."​

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Merhi said he was hopeful the Broncos, for whom Haas will play his 100th NRL game on Friday night against Parramatta, would be the club to provide that pathway:​

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"I have always been hopeful. Why would you want to take him away from a club that is number one powerhouse in the competition? "I believe Brisbane have the power to get it done."​

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Haas could play for another 12 years in the NRL, earn millions of dollars and achieve greatness but Merhi insisted his next deal would be "all about" post-football pathways:​

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"That is always what it has been about. Yes, the kid wants to win premierships.The kid wants to be in a successful side ... but there is a good old saying that I said to him. I said, 'mate, just remember this. Talent makes money but it takes brains to keep it'."​

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Merhi said he was concerned Polynesian players made up such a high percentage of the NRL playing group but were not as well represented in NRL management or coaching roles:​

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"Without the boys of Polynesian background there wouldn't be a game today and I am striving to make sure that Payne has a gig in the sport that he loves, the NRL, and has the education and support from a club that wants to do it. I have been coaching kids prior to my management for 20 years and a number of NRL players that I know - that I have coached and moved onto NRL - left the game without a penny to their name. The RLPA does much work in that avenue but if a player doesn't have somebody to guide him and lead him in the right direction then these (opportunities post-football) don't occur."​

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Haas's NRL deal hangs on post-footy package: manager

The manager of Payne Haas says he is hopeful the Brisbane prop forward will re-sign with the club before November 1.

www.aapnews.com.au

 

[Mustafur]

All this tells me is he is looking at a very long term deal that extends to post career.

10 year 1.1m a season with some post career gig I don't think would be hard to line up, the biggest question mark is him being soo young what that post career gig will be.

That said something like that would basically be like a retirement announcement at age 23 for far in the future, which would be weird to say the least.

 

[Kaz]

Joel Gould (AAP):

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"One hundred per cent. The whole situation with Payne is about life after footy," Merhi told AAP. "It has got nothing to do with payments. It is all about getting him an education and a job in his life after footy."​

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Haas's NRL deal hangs on post-footy package: manager

The manager of Payne Haas says he is hopeful the Brisbane prop forward will re-sign with the club before November 1.

www.aapnews.com.au

One week is premerships, then it's family, now it's life after footy.

 

[theshed]

All this tells me is he is looking at a very long term deal that extends to post career.

10 year 1.1m a season with some post career gig I don't think would be hard to line up, the biggest question mark is him being soo young what that post career gig will be.

That said something like that would basically be like a retirement announcement at age 23 for far in the future, which would be weird to say the least.

What I get is his manager wants to tie him down to a long term deal.

 

[Manofoneway]

If we lose corey Oates to keep this dickhead ill be furious

 

[Bish]

Merhi said he was concerned Polynesian players made up such a high percentage of the NRL playing group but were not as well represented in NRL management or coaching roles:

Being a quality player doesn’t guarantee being a coach or manager of any note. Being Polynesian shouldn’t be the criteria for that role, or indigenous or Caucasian for that matter. It should be down to individual ability in the role. To suggest a role like that at 23 as being part of his long term plan is ridiculous.

 

[nopatience101]

It makes no sense to be asking for a job after football when that’s at least a decade away. The broncos also can’t guarantee any job because it would then have to be included on the cap.

It’s really hard to understand what he wants the club to do, usually it’s his manager that would be expected to help him invest his money and provide a plan for his future. Yet, here he apparently expects the club to do it. It’s all very bizarre and sounds like the crap the roosters spin when they sign a marquee player for unders- their board having all these wonderful business connections to “guide” players for their life post football etc. Let’s hope it’s all not just a pretext for signing with the roosters.

 

[Super Freak]

If we lose corey Oates to keep this dickhead ill be furious

If we lose Haas because we weren't willing to let go of Oates, we're stupid.

Oates has 2-3 years left in him max. Sometimes you have to make the tough call getting rid of a club favourite to keep players that are more important to our future.

 

[theshed]

It makes no sense to be asking for a job after football when that’s at least a decade away. The broncos also can’t guarantee any job because it would then have to be included on the cap.

It’s really hard to understand what he wants the club to do, usually it’s his manager that would be expected to help him invest his money and provide a plan for his future. Yet, here he apparently expects the club to do it. It’s all very bizarre and sounds like the crap the roosters spin when they sign a marquee player for unders- their board having all these wonderful business connections to “guide” players for their life post football etc. Let’s hope it’s all not just a pretext for signing with the roosters.

He might mean qualifications or education opportunities during his current contract and not necessarily being promised a job at the club after.

Feels like angling for a move to the rosters to me. They sent Cronk to Harvard

 

[theshed]

He might mean qualifications or education opportunities during his current contract and not necessarily being promised a job at the club after.

Feels like angling for a move to the rosters to me. They sent Cronk to Harvard

The blueprint already exists

How A Harvard University Degree Sealed Cooper Cronk's Move To The Roosters

"It wasn’t all about money”

amp.triplem.com.au

 

[Manofoneway]

If we lose Haas because we weren't willing to let go of Oates, we're stupid.

Oates has 2-3 years left in him max. Sometimes you have to make the tough call getting rid of a club favourite.

I think the opposite. Corey Oates is hugely popular with the playing group. Payne haas will flog you if you step on his shoes. Give me a choice between keeping palasia, Oates and flegler or haas and I would take the other three.