PRE-GAME Round 4 - Broncos vs Titans

[pagey]

Wayne likes blokes who show a good attitude and put themselves out. Knik is one of them. If you give him everything Wayne will always back you and give you a fair crack of the whip. I'd say the backup options are a bit light on the ground because of us losing Hunt, missing out on Taylor and their just not being a heap of decent half backs on the market.

We have a few players who have had the chance to ask for a release and leave to play elsewhere and Wayne has refused to let them go, Nikorima is one of them. Bennett doesnt generally stand in players way either if they get good offers so the blokes he does that to obviously have his trust and backing.

Well he got it wrong by releasing Taylor and keeping knik.

 

[Super Freak]

1. Boyd (daddy lets me play where I want)
2. Pearson
3. Opaic
4. Roberts
5. Issako
6. Milf
7. KNik
8. Moose
9. McCullough
10. Lodge
11. Glenn
12. Sims
14. Tagateese
13. Bird (on after 30 at lock)
15. Gillo (had enough needs a message on after 25)
16. Sua
17. Offa

Risk with Opaic/Pearson side. Bird would be a little safer and a fair bit more dangerous (although Bird looks slower) but the spine desperately need Bird’s help.

How can the side gel and build any consistency and momentum if we chop and change it?

Sims has been quite good for us in the front row in the past couple of games but gets moved to the edge.. Then we lose the impact he has been providing off the bench.

 

[Wolfie]

Well he got it wrong by releasing Taylor and keeping knik.

He did what was best for Taylor more than the Broncos so in one respect he did, but its hard to knock a bloke for doing whats best for the person as well. Thats why he has so many players want to be coached by him, he generally does whats best for the individual not the club.

 

[Super Freak]

Well he got it wrong by releasing Taylor and keeping knik.

Easy to criticize after the fact, but at that moment that was the only way Taylor was going to be playing first grade.

If Bennett had a crystal ball and could see the future, I'm sure he would have done things differently.

 

[pagey]

He did what was best for Taylor more than the Broncos so in one respect he did, but its hard to knock a bloke for doing whats best for the person as well. Thats why he has so many players want to be coached by him, he generally does whats best for the individual not the club.

I think they thought he would come back and thought hunt wouldn't leave . Locky even said they penciled hunt and milf for the long term. You wouldn't see bellamy let someone like ash go and everyone wants to be coached by him.

 

[pagey]

Easy to criticize after the fact, but at that moment that was the only way Taylor was going to be playing first grade.

If Bennett had a crystal ball and could see the future, I'm sure he would have done things differently.

They new he was good but put their eggs into one basket. He could have been brought through as a bench player ala kodi ... you don't get rid of talent like that until you know what you have. Milf and hunt were still an unknown.

 

[Super Freak]

They new he was good but put their eggs into one basket. He could have been brought through as a bench player ala kodi ... you don't get rid of talent like that until you know what you have. Milf and hunt were still an unknown.

He didn't want to be a bench player. He wanted to be halfback. We couldn't offer him that at the time. Milf and Hunt were both killing it and were the best halves combination in the comp at the time and they didn't even look like going downhill. Keep in mind, that was Hunt's second great season.

Besides, Kodi was doing very well off the bench and didn't deserve to be dropped. You don't put someone in first grade just so they will stay.

Like I said, very easy to criticize after the fact. But at the time, there was no future at the Broncos for Taylor and he didn't want to wait to become an NRL halfback. So Bennett did what was best for him and let him go so he could be one.

 

[Wolfie]

They new he was good but put their eggs into one basket. He could have been brought through as a bench player ala kodi ... you don't get rid of talent like that until you know what you have. Milf and hunt were still an unknown.

You might not, but like i said, Bennett puts the player before the club. I wouldnt say Hunt or Milf were unknown in terms of their ability either. They pretty much killed it all of the 2015 season and were a whisker away from winning a grand final. Nobody could have forseen either the outrageous money thrown by other clubs at both players.

 

[winslow_wong]

He did what was best for Taylor more than the Broncos so in one respect he did, but its hard to knock a bloke for doing whats best for the person as well. Thats why he has so many players want to be coached by him, he generally does whats best for the individual not the club.

Which is why tpj will leave for bigger money

 

[Jason Simmons]

true ... doesn't mean we can't give our opinion on that selection (or any other he makes)

True, I just sense here is a substantial disconnect with certain members here who are choosing to ignore all the evidence we have at the moment, which shows that Wayne has faith in him and as such he will continue to be selected as our starting half whilst he remains fit and available.

Until some sort of evidence shows that Wayne is losing faith or some sudden unforseen signing happens, Kodi Nikorima will continue to be our starting halfback.

 

[pagey]

You might not, but like i said, Bennett puts the player before the club. I wouldnt say Hunt or Milf were unknown in terms of their ability either. They pretty much killed it all of the 2015 season and were a whisker away from winning a grand final. Nobody could have forseen either the outrageous money thrown by other clubs at both players.

And then ???? He had one more season left, why not let him play qcup and earn a spot. Have a look at the brodie croft situation he wasn't released they saw a future in him . So they slowly brought him through, and ash is a level above imo... as for kodi , he is looking like a poor mans Milford .

 

[Super Freak]

And then ???? He had one more season left, why not let him play qcup and earn a spot. Have a look at the brodie croft situation he wasn't released they saw a future in him . So they slowly brought him through, and ash is a level above imo... as for kodi , he is looking like a poor mans Milford .

The Croft situation was different.

 

[Jason Simmons]

Which is why tpj will leave for bigger money

Not so sure of that from his statement on instagram today...

 

[Jason Simmons]

He did what was best for Taylor more than the Broncos so in one respect he did, but its hard to knock a bloke for doing whats best for the person as well. Thats why he has so many players want to be coached by him, he generally does whats best for the individual not the club.

It is when we want the club to succeed and in this modern age consistently match the ruthlessness of other clubs.

Wayne’s relationship with players is no doubt great, but that can’t come at the expense of performance. His job is to coach us to premierships first and foremost and I’m not sure that thinking was there when he made the decision on Taylor.

If he thought Taylor would repay the favour we did him by signing with us arguably when we needed him, well then perhaps Wayne’s relationship isn‘t as strong as he hoped as Taylor clearly didn’t sign with us, in which case we can’t rely necessarily on the strength of relationships in such situations in future because doing so is to our detriment...

 

[pagey]

QUOTE="Super Freak, post: 2921038, member: 8536"]The Croft situation was different.[/QUOTE]
Maybe, but you don't good players walk.

 

[Number6]

How can the side gel and build any consistency and momentum if we chop and change it?

Sims has been quite good for us in the front row in the past couple of games but gets moved to the edge.. Then we lose the impact he has been providing off the bench.

True so set the team early and make hard decisions now. Some changes are forced (Oates and TPJ). Others are required for longer term especially if that was the plan anyway (Bird to lock?). Sims isn’t a front rower, he might have a few good games there but will most likely be same pattern if keep him there). Some (Gillo to bench) are to try and remedy both the actuality and culture emerging of underperformance being tolerated.

 

[CaptainHook]

I hope we fucking smash the Titans!

 

[broncos4life]

It is when we want the club to succeed and in this modern age consistently match the ruthlessness of other clubs.

Wayne’s relationship with players is no doubt great, but that can’t come at the expense of performance. His job is to coach us to premierships first and foremost and I’m not sure that thinking was there when he made the decision on Taylor.

If he thought Taylor would repay the favour we did him by signing with us arguably when we needed him, well then perhaps Wayne’s relationship isn‘t as strong as he hoped as Taylor clearly didn’t sign with us, in which case we can’t rely necessarily on the strength of relationships in such situations in future because doing so is to our detriment...

You just need to be more selective with who you trust in the future.