Tardy Blues brush bushfire kids

[ddd]

Yeah your right and when you consider he is the coach of Melbourne you would think he would know how important it is to promote the game to as many kids as possible down there.

Maybe Bellyache has already given up on the kids of Melbourne?
As if you'd have a meet and greet without Wallace showing up - he was born in Melbourne, there is no-one better than him to be there - in fact, the rest of the team didn't need to be there, Wallace was essential -
Arrogant blues

Maybe they're already feeling a bit under the pump, extra training and all that

 

[Nashy]

Meanwhile.

6 Degrees (Feels like 1 Degree), Pissing Rain, Bloody Windy and the Warriors pull a 15k crowd.

Single team city. Absolutely woeful crowd for a single city team.

Warriors, Broncos, North QLD and the Gold Coast should all be close to selling out every week. They've got no other fan-base to compete with.

Warriors are in Union territory. There is no way they will ever have a sellout crowd each and every game. Will never ever happen.

NorthQLD, Gold Coast and Brisbane. No other fan-base?

Gold Coast and Brisbane are about an hour apart. The Gold Coast still have heaps of residents who support the Broncos, all the league fans didn't just convert overnight.

Brisbane is competing directly with Both the other QLD clubs. Plenty of people in Brisbane hate them and support the Cowboys and lesser the Titans.

NorthQLD. Brisbane still has a massive reach right up to the far end.

To say these teams are not competing for fans is just silly.

But I do understand what you are saying. Sydney has too many teams. Too many to the extent that it is not viable for them all to operate.

And their fans suck so don't help them [icon_wink

 

[The Brizz]

Brisbane also have rival codes to compete with as will the Gold Coast and NQ from later this year.

 

[ningnangnong]

I sense another epic Rocky Vs. Nashy debate is around the corner. :mrgreen:

 

[Hamm.0]

Back on Topic; NSW let down little kids.

I guess some people think that's acceptable and some don't.

I believe the first category are named New South Welshmen and the latter are named Queenslanders (sorry; "Redneck" Queenslanders).

edit; long day.

 

[broncosil]

I live in Mackay, and there are tons of Broncos fans up here. Not just Cowboys fans. Not all of them are miners from Brisbane either, but many that supported Brisbane before the Cowboys came into the comp.

And how can population not be a factor when concerning crowds? That is one of the first factors considered when introducing a new team, as well as the demographic. A town at least needs a decent population to support a team.

And a city that has 4 times the population should sustain more teams than Brisbane. NSW clubs manage their clubs poorly, as Coxy pointed out. Not to mention that winning teams have higher crowds, Melbourne being one of them.

Also I am sure that the GFC has made a huge impact on crowd figures.

TV ratings are far higher for RL than for AFL. RL is a game that can be watched at home and sometimes you see far more, whereas AFL is a game that is hard to watch on TV because of the way it is played. Reducing coverage only serves to piss fans off, especially when ticket prices are becoming unattainable, and it pisses those off that don't live in the right areas. I live in Mackay, travelling 3.5-4 hours each week to see a team I only support as a second option, with 2 kids under 2.5 is not viable. Nor is travelling Brisbane each week.

More realistic goals need to be set and it all comes down to affordability.

 

[schmix]

Back on Topic; NSW let down little kids.

I guess some people think that's acceptable and some don't.

I believe the first category are named Queenslanders (sorry; "Redneck" Queenslanders) and the latter are named New South Welshmen.

I think you need to swap those around eusa_think

 

[Flutterby]

I don't think you can make judgements on a game's popularity on crowd figures alone. Let's face it - it is pretty damn expensive to go to the footy these days - especially if you want to have anything to eat or drink. Plus in many cases it is a pain in the arse to actually get to the game. When you can stay home and watch it live or almost live in the comfort of your own home, I can understand people not going.

You have to look at the big picture - crowd figures, TV ratings, merchandise sales, hits on rugby league related websites, media articles on the game, even number of people playing in RL tipping comps, people having conversations about RL etc etc etc.

 

[Black Philip]

On the original topic, I think it's pretty poor form by the blues. It was slack and very inconsiderate. You'd expect a lot better from a professional sports team.
If it is a clear representation of their attitude and general mindset at the moment I think we will absolutely smash them on Wednesday, and they f*cken deserve it too.

 

[Jeba]

Rocky - I think the original argument was that you had your head up your arse. But you didn't argue against that. Good to see you know how to pick your battles [icon_wink

 

[Nashy]

[quote="The Rock":3cluadmt]

Meanwhile.

6 Degrees (Feels like 1 Degree), Pissing Rain, Bloody Windy and the Warriors pull a 15k crowd.

Single team city. Absolutely woeful crowd for a single city team.

Warriors, Broncos, North QLD and the Gold Coast should all be close to selling out every week. They've got no other fan-base to compete with.

Warriors are in Union territory. There is no way they will ever have a sellout crowd each and every game. Will never ever happen.

NorthQLD, Gold Coast and Brisbane. No other fan-base?

Gold Coast and Brisbane are about an hour apart. The Gold Coast still have heaps of residents who support the Broncos, all the league fans didn't just convert overnight.

Brisbane is competing directly with Both the other QLD clubs. Plenty of people in Brisbane hate them and support the Cowboys and lesser the Titans.

NorthQLD. Brisbane still has a massive reach right up to the far end.

To say these teams are not competing for fans is just silly.

But I do understand what you are saying. Sydney has too many teams. Too many to the extent that it is not viable for them all to operate.

And their fans suck so don't help them [icon_wink

Sydney teams have to compete with other sports too just like Brisbame, Titans, Cowboys and Warriors. Combine that and add the fact that they have 9 teams in Sydney, it's much harder for Sydney teams to get sell outs.

Yet even still there are FIVE Sydney clubs that have home crowd averages of ABOVE 15,000 this year. (And the Bulldogs actually have a better home average than both the Titans and the Cowboys!!)

Bulldogs home average - 18,926
Tigers home average - 17,001
Roosters home Average - 16,688
St George home average - 16,166
Souths home average - 15,383

Yet if you look at 2 of the teams in QLD, their home crowd averages are poor in comparison.

Titans home crowd - 18,105
Cowboys home crowd - 17,261

Brisbane crowds CARRY the crowds in QLD.

Let me make this clear - the original argument was that league in Sydney is "dying" and that the crowds in Sydney were "poor". If crowd numbers are any indication, League is far from dying in NSW.[/quote:3cluadmt]

I'm not sure if you're doing one or the other. Hell, you could be doing both.

I'm sure you're not comparing Sydney with Townsville, who are home to a team where their support base covers two states. Sorry, 1 State and a Territory.

And I'm also sure you're not comparing Sydney with the Gold Coast who have a team that has thus far completed 2 entire seasons.

Now in your stats. The Broncos in there and actually compare them with your shitty Sydney teams. Bare in mind when you do it. Plenty of people here in Brisbane hate the Broncos.

 

[Nashy]

Apologies. I came into this late. I'm more concerned at the fact that the crowds suck so bad.

 

[Nashy]

I've been thinking and looking at your number above. Can you give some number for populations of the areas these teams play in?

 

[Nashy]

I don't want Sydney's population. I want the areas that each team are in. I would get it, but I don't know Sydney well enough.

 

[mrslong]

Poor form by the blewsers.

With regards to crowds and population and more than 1 team towns: a 30,000 AFL crowd in Melbourne is considered small + a 30,000 NRL crowd in Sydney is considered epic. Sydney are clutching at straws.

 

[Coxy]

But AFL is a different culture...........

 

[Nashy]

LOLZ. Nashy, you're digging yourself a hole.

But hey, you asked for it!

Canterbury-Bansktown - Approx 322, 163. Therefore, 5.8% of their fan base is attending games.
Kogarah and Wollongong - Approx 254, 195. Therefore, 6.3% of their fan base is attending games.
Leichhardt and Campbelltown - Approx 201,024. Therefore, 8.4% of their fan base is attending games.

Let's even throw in the Sharks. Sutherland Shire Approx 215, 868. That's 4.6% if their fan base attending games.

But hey, don't blame me, you wanted population figures per area.

So perhaps with these figures everyone can finally just drop this stupid subject?

 

[Jeba]

Sorry, I just can't buy that Rugby League down their isn't in trouble when there are a few clubs up shit creek.